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bringing the end to a crisis, a high stakes situation for egypt and the u.n. in fighting is the most intense the middle east has seen. jim frederick is joining us. as i mentioned, the latest development. the president, while he is in asia, making these important phone calls. obviously, wanting the same goal that everyone does at this point. >> yeah. i think the interesting thing so far is how removed the united states has been from the situation, from the negotiations going on in egypt and so people are starting to ask, is this a problem that the united states has to come in and solve? obama has hands-off. he's traveling throughout asia. the united states' voice here has been largely silent. i think part of that is purposeful, and i think part of that is leading from behind some of the strategies the united states has tried to pioneer over the past couple of years, and also i think it's a realization that the united states might not have as much leverage in the region or countries around the region it had a couple of years before the arab spring. >> isn't ther
bringing the end to a crisis, a high stakes situation for egypt and the u.n. in fighting is the most intense the middle east has seen. jim frederick is joining us. as i mentioned, the latest development. the president, while he is in asia, making these important phone calls. obviously, wanting the same goal that everyone does at this point. >> yeah. i think the interesting thing so far is how removed the united states has been from the situation, from the negotiations going on in egypt...
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we begin with the protests in egypt. over night protesters clashed with security forces. this was the scene in dammanhour north of cry row. reza sayah joining us. when can we expect the big one to start? >> reporter: the big one starts tuesday. they're calling for a 1 million main protest on tuesday. that's going to repeat calling for opponents of mr. morsi. but even today there are pro-morsi demonstrated takes place. they're going to be take place in cities outside of cairo. in some of these cities you have anti-morsi protesters as well. we've seen clashes in the early morning hours. they're going to attack the offices of the muslim brotherhood, supporters of the muslim brotherhood. things getting ugly there. the focal point of these anti-government protests remain here in ta rears square. i'm going to step aside to give you a live like look of what tahrir square looks like. most of them peaceful but we're still getting clashes and protests. right below they have set fire to an avis rental car center. you heard what sounded like a stun grenade. >> what you see here, they
we begin with the protests in egypt. over night protesters clashed with security forces. this was the scene in dammanhour north of cry row. reza sayah joining us. when can we expect the big one to start? >> reporter: the big one starts tuesday. they're calling for a 1 million main protest on tuesday. that's going to repeat calling for opponents of mr. morsi. but even today there are pro-morsi demonstrated takes place. they're going to be take place in cities outside of cairo. in some of...
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taking over egypt after the arab spring. mubarak was an ally to the country for so long, coming out of the camp david accords where sedatesadat was. >> i think from the american perspective egypt is a necessary broker. they consider hamas a terrorist entity. the u.s. does not directly deal with hamas. in order to be a broker between both sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yes well, you know, john mccain we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another opinion who he thinks should be over in the mideast talking to these people. >> even someone as high ranking frankly as former president bill clinton to go and be the negotiator. i know he would hate me for saying that, but we need someone of enormous prestige and influence to sit down with the parties together and work as a broker. >> when we see mccain saying something nice about a democrat, he has to go and say one more thing. this is john mccain once again. >> if this god-forbid violence escalates, if someone was there brokering the process and bri
taking over egypt after the arab spring. mubarak was an ally to the country for so long, coming out of the camp david accords where sedatesadat was. >> i think from the american perspective egypt is a necessary broker. they consider hamas a terrorist entity. the u.s. does not directly deal with hamas. in order to be a broker between both sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yes well, you know, john mccain we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another...
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egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic is that when they are higher grade, longer range rockets being smuggled in in the last couple years, you don't have an egyptian partner like mubarak who is going to try to shut down those tunnels. israel has some real concerns and hamas has access to much better weaponry. >> it does. that also gets back to part of the purpose of what the israelis are doing. a, the israelis going after targets designed to destroy this capability that hamas has. so when you talk about collateral damage, it's because a lot of the rockets are put in highly populated areas.
egypt has a interest in trying to move things along. no doubt they're adopting -- they're going to support the hamas position at one level, but the fact is the israelis want certainty if the cease-fire is going to take place, what is the guarantee that this is not something that's going to break down after a couple weeks? >> now one of the things that michael orrin, the israeli ambassador told us last thursday on the program is, we want to get to those stockpiles of rockets. how realistic...
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egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks in this country suspected that he would. >> yeah. and you can bet that the white house is watching that especially closely. i mean the last few days as we just said the president spoke repeatedly with president morsi. it seemed like they were having the start of a good relationship that led to a cease-fire in gaza. that is a good thing from the point of view of the united states. and then the timing of this new announcement is certainly interesting and perhaps questionable because after developing that relationship after getting some international kudos for what he did, he made this move.
egypt used to be the stabilizing force in the region. egypt is a very tricky situation. you see even what's happened since the cease-fire was signed and how morsi has responded by seeming to take advantage of this moment to grab more power. it's a really tricky situation for the president and for the administration as a whole. >> jeff we just heard a few moments ago, from our correspondent there in egypt, it appears at least to some that mohamed morsi may be becoming what a lot of folks...
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with benjamin netanyahu and then to ramallah to meet with palestinian leaders and finally to cairo, egypt. the president was up late last night talking to netanyahu and mohamed morrissey. this morning chuck asked ben rhodes whether clinton is going because talks are stuck or a diplomatic resolution is close at hand. >> she is going because we've been in discussions with these leaders and we want to carry those forward. and obviously the center of gravity for those discussions is in the region. i don't want to predict what the outcome of those discussions will be. we know how difficult the situation is, how charged the issue of gaza is. we've seen conflict there in the past. so this is a difficult challenge. but, again, it's worth the effort of leaders from the united states in the region and interfashionly. >> chuck joins us now from cambodia where he is traveling with the president. chuck, a lot of moving and fast moving parts here. what can you tell us? what's the latest? >> i can tell you what aides will say in answer it to that question off answer. certain things you can say on camera
with benjamin netanyahu and then to ramallah to meet with palestinian leaders and finally to cairo, egypt. the president was up late last night talking to netanyahu and mohamed morrissey. this morning chuck asked ben rhodes whether clinton is going because talks are stuck or a diplomatic resolution is close at hand. >> she is going because we've been in discussions with these leaders and we want to carry those forward. and obviously the center of gravity for those discussions is in the...
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egypt loses if there's an escalation. you can argue jordan loses because there's more public pressure on the king. the palestinian authority, there will be more pressure and the winners will be hezbollah, supplying missiles to hamas, iran supplying missiles to hamas. everybody has an interest in a cease-fire and yet there is an escalation that can get out of hand. >> the arab spring led to popular uprisings in many cases changing the leadership in those countries. how do you think the arab spring affected the calculation here and what's taking place with this conflict at this time. >> hugely. think about 2008. there was a major gaza war on larger scale than this one. 1400 palestinians were killed in that three weeks of war. what happened? yes, there was public opinion pressure in the arab world. it really didn't show up in terms of government policies. mubarak, critical of israel was actually coordinating with them because he didn't want to see hamas really succeed. that's true of several other arab leaders. right now, no
egypt loses if there's an escalation. you can argue jordan loses because there's more public pressure on the king. the palestinian authority, there will be more pressure and the winners will be hezbollah, supplying missiles to hamas, iran supplying missiles to hamas. everybody has an interest in a cease-fire and yet there is an escalation that can get out of hand. >> the arab spring led to popular uprisings in many cases changing the leadership in those countries. how do you think the...
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right now there are negotiations taking place in cairo between egypt, egyptian intelligence officials, including senior leaders of the palestinian faction. they are trying to come up with a loose plan. they are still some sticking points whether or not that would be agreed upon but there are positive signs as it has been described by egypt's prime minister in an interview he gave to news agency in cairo. meanwhile, here inside gaza, operations are still ongoing. the israeli air force has carried out dozens of strikes across the gaza strip. palestinian rockets have gone off from gaza into southern israel. there is that incident you referred to yesterday on sunday there was an israeli air strike that targeted one residential building in which 12 people were inside. ten of those from a single family including four children. israel says that house belonged to a leading member of hamas and the campaign over the past several days suggest they are perhaps now targeting the specific homes of some of the leaders in hamas' military wing and political echelon. >> let's turn to stephanie gosk. >>
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there's been a peace treaty between israel and egypt. now the nooyi egyptian leader, he's muslim brotherhood. guest what, his cousins are muslim brotherhood hamas. he has a very narrow line to walk. on the one hand if he looks like he's supporting the muslim brotherhood, hamas going up against israel he has to face the wrath of the united states and the pocketbook of the united states. if he doesn't look like he's supporting them he has his own islamist factions inside egypt who will say who needs i we could have had hosni mubarak for this type of reaction. martha: how is this going to play out? >> it remains to be seen. the israelis have gone through full mobilization, they are ready to om it's a costly thing in time and material and money, so for them to do this on a bluff, that is not happening. but they have to also look, this is not just urban combat, gaza has been hollowed out underneath. there are tunnels all over the place between buildings, so as a conventional force advances the bad guys drop down, run through the tunnels and c
there's been a peace treaty between israel and egypt. now the nooyi egyptian leader, he's muslim brotherhood. guest what, his cousins are muslim brotherhood hamas. he has a very narrow line to walk. on the one hand if he looks like he's supporting the muslim brotherhood, hamas going up against israel he has to face the wrath of the united states and the pocketbook of the united states. if he doesn't look like he's supporting them he has his own islamist factions inside egypt who will say who...
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, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we are. gaza is still very much a war zone atmosphere. although, as you mentioned, it is 9:00 local time so the cease-fire is officially in effect and hearing drones and up to the last minute as you noted but well before that, several minutes before that, a series of explosions as well as a series of rockets coming out of gaza in to southern israel and the question is whether it sticks for the rest of the night. >> obviously, everyone is watching very closely, certainly, in that region and around the world. the people living with
, west bank and egypt. and it follows more than a week of cross border rocket fire exchanges between israel and hamas in gaza. now, that has left 100 people dead. joining me now from gaza is nbc news foreign correspondent amman mulhadeen. i saw you turn around and notice the night skylight up behind you. that was a minute within the cease-fire taking effect. do we know that's rocket fire coming in behind you? >> reporter: it was, in fact. it was an israeli air strike north of where we...
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egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months, perhaps less than a month after he had secret service protection and entourage also we have seen that he's pumping gas, learning how to pump gas i guess or we'll assume he knew how to pump gas, but we've had a number of pictures of him at disney land on the roller coaster with his boys. >> look -- >> who -- sometimes people can lose a presidential election and continue to be a really phenomenal force in their party and in politics. i don't think this is going to be the case with mitt romney. he lost this election as you sa
egypt case in point. i think this is a crisis and an emergency and we all hope that out of this can come not just a short-term cease-fire but an opportunity. i don't get the sense that that's there. the best case is to put things back and be look around for opportunities to get the process back on track. >> and to both of you, if there's ever been better evidence that life changes very quickly, take a look at the fact that the life can be a roller coaster that only days after or months,...
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and as secretary of state clinton herself has said, if iran gets nuclear weapon, saudi arabia will, egypt will, turkey and perhaps others. so i think thuation is headed downhill. and unfortunately, increasingly rapid rate. >> thank you both very much for being with us. next, crout caught -- charles krauthammer on why americans want conservative. he is a star and future of the g.o.p., who else can join the ranks of marco rubio >> welcome back to "hannity." tonight, the fallout from tuesday's election continues. if you listen to the narrative spun by the mainstream media in the wake of the barack obama victory, you would be led to believe that the republican party's finished. you would think a conservative candidate has no shot of getting elected. but that's not the case. and my next guest is here to explain why. in his latest column, charles krauthammer calls on republicans to stand by the conservative principles that define the g.o.p., and here's why. according to the exit polls, a majority of americans believe that the government does too much. 51-43%. in other words, there is very much
and as secretary of state clinton herself has said, if iran gets nuclear weapon, saudi arabia will, egypt will, turkey and perhaps others. so i think thuation is headed downhill. and unfortunately, increasingly rapid rate. >> thank you both very much for being with us. next, crout caught -- charles krauthammer on why americans want conservative. he is a star and future of the g.o.p., who else can join the ranks of marco rubio >> welcome back to "hannity." tonight, the...
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and as secretary of state clinton herself has said, if iran gets nuclear weapon, saudi arabia will, egypt will, turkey and perhaps others. so i think thuation is headed downhill. and unfortunately, increasingly rapid rate. >> thank you both very much for being with us. next, crout caught -- charles krauthammer on why americans want conservative. he is a star and future of the g.o.p., who else can join the ranks of marco rubio and re-energize the republicans for the next election. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. i'm thinking aboutpgrading... finally! jonathan was fine when you were in your 20s, but he's not right for you. good-bye jonathan and his creepy little girl hands. i meant... [ male announcer ] or choosing a windows 8 device with help from the experts at staples. another way staples and hp make it
and as secretary of state clinton herself has said, if iran gets nuclear weapon, saudi arabia will, egypt will, turkey and perhaps others. so i think thuation is headed downhill. and unfortunately, increasingly rapid rate. >> thank you both very much for being with us. next, crout caught -- charles krauthammer on why americans want conservative. he is a star and future of the g.o.p., who else can join the ranks of marco rubio and re-energize the republicans for the next election. try...
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and as secretary of state clinton herself has said, if iran gets nuclear weapon, saudi arabia will, egypt will, turkey and perhaps others. so i think thuation is headed downhill. and unfortunately, increasingly rapid rate. >> thank you both very much for being with us. next, crout caught -- charles krauthammer on why americans want conservative. he is a star and future of the g.o.p., who else can join the ranks of marco rubio ♪ buy 5-hour energy pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help others along the way. ♪ ♪ a portion of every bottle that they sell goes to fight ♪ ♪ breast cancer and i think that's swell. ♪ ♪ the more you take, the more they'll pay, ♪ ♪ so make them write a big check today. ♪ ♪ and if you're feeling a little slow, ♪ ♪ then 5-hour energy will help you go. ♪ ♪ so buy a bottle of pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help fight breast cancer today. ♪ ♪ fare thee well ♪ farewell ♪ mr. gloom be on your way ♪ ♪ though you haven't any money you can still be bright and sunny ♪ ♪ sing polly wolly doodle all the day ♪ ♪ hah yeah. it's
and as secretary of state clinton herself has said, if iran gets nuclear weapon, saudi arabia will, egypt will, turkey and perhaps others. so i think thuation is headed downhill. and unfortunately, increasingly rapid rate. >> thank you both very much for being with us. next, crout caught -- charles krauthammer on why americans want conservative. he is a star and future of the g.o.p., who else can join the ranks of marco rubio ♪ buy 5-hour energy pink lemonade and ♪ ♪ you can help...
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in talking to president morsi, he also expressed his condolences for the loss of life in egypt due to that train accident. he also stressed the importance of de-escalating violence in gaza, specifically in terms of talking to president morsi. talked about the importance of urging hamas to end its rocket fire that is right now going into israel. he spoke with prime minister netanyahu and also sort of stressed the importance of de-escalating this situation. of course, president morsi has been charged with trying to broker a cease-fire in the region, so i imagine president obama also addressed that as well. but, martin, this situation sort of underscores how tough it is for president obama to carry the office of the presidency with him wherever he goes. as you just mentioned, he's taking this historic trip to southeast asia. this administration really trying to shift its focus away from the middle east, away from the wars in iraq and afghanistan, and to asia, to sort of be a counter balance to china in that region, but it's really a challenge. this violence flaring up in the middle east
in talking to president morsi, he also expressed his condolences for the loss of life in egypt due to that train accident. he also stressed the importance of de-escalating violence in gaza, specifically in terms of talking to president morsi. talked about the importance of urging hamas to end its rocket fire that is right now going into israel. he spoke with prime minister netanyahu and also sort of stressed the importance of de-escalating this situation. of course, president morsi has been...
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. >>> and egypt's president mohamed morsi met with top judges this morning. this as violent protests rage in the streets for a third day. is a compromise in the works to solve the political crisis? we have a live report coming up from cairo. >>> and online shopping records are expected to be broken this cyber monday. did you hear this? for the first time some consumers will feel the sting of the ee tax. which states and retails are now taxing online shoppers for the very first time. >>> and join our conversation at twitter. you can find us @tamron hall and @news nation. [ "odd couple" theme plays ] humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >>> welcome back. we're following developing news. the one-time prime minister and general abruptly quit this morning. he's
. >>> and egypt's president mohamed morsi met with top judges this morning. this as violent protests rage in the streets for a third day. is a compromise in the works to solve the political crisis? we have a live report coming up from cairo. >>> and online shopping records are expected to be broken this cyber monday. did you hear this? for the first time some consumers will feel the sting of the ee tax. which states and retails are now taxing online shoppers for the very first...
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>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have an interest to make sure that mass and the other extremists in gaza don't stir up trouble. don't cause friction. don't create violence. and i think we and the egyptians work together on keeping the peace and on trying to make sure the terrorists don't dictate the agenda. >> mark, suggestions that this past eight, nine days was a practice run, if you will, for any faw tour confrontation, testing, identifying hamas' capabilities, is that true enough? and if so, what did you learn? >> well, first of all, we know the rockets that were fired at tel aviv and jer
>> you know, israel and egypt fought wars in the past. we fought bloody wars and people on both sides lost their lives in 1948 and 1956 and 1967 and again in 1973. in the late 1970s we signed a peace treaty with israel that has brought peace to the border, and i think that's in the interests of both countries to keep that peace treaty. that's in the israeli interests and the egyptian interests. we have hamas that shares a common border with egypt and israel, and we think both sides have...
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representatives of the two sides are in egypt for cease-fire talks. but they are not talking directly to each other. hamas making a public demand for a truce. fredrick plight begin live from israel. good morning, israel doesn't seem to be giving in on its side either saying that gaza needs to stop the attacks first as a negotiating starting point. what's the latest? >> certainly the attacks don't seem to be stopping. i'm quite close to the gaza stripe and just in the past couple of hours we've had two rocket alarms go off in the city. that is a signal for us to then take cover. if you're not in the vicinity of any buildings to hit the deck. also in other israeli towns throughout the area, there have been some rockets picked off by missile interceptor systems. so it does not look as though the violence is abating. one thing i will say, throughout the night it seems as though it was a little more quiet than in the past nights. however this morning there have been more rocket attacks. that is something that continues to take its toll on israeli civilians
representatives of the two sides are in egypt for cease-fire talks. but they are not talking directly to each other. hamas making a public demand for a truce. fredrick plight begin live from israel. good morning, israel doesn't seem to be giving in on its side either saying that gaza needs to stop the attacks first as a negotiating starting point. what's the latest? >> certainly the attacks don't seem to be stopping. i'm quite close to the gaza stripe and just in the past couple of hours...
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on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i can't get quite in their heads. in that part of the world they're aware of the american political calendar, as everyone is, and there is a sort of freezing of decision making in this period leading up to an american election. let's face it, a president romney would have been a very different approach. >> and probably preferred by netanyahu. >> it's seen that way. paezble to that hamas is testing -- had waited to test until now. the truth is that the arab spring has many, many positive qualities for us in the west. the possibility that the people in that part of the world will be connected with their leadership.
on the other hand, the president of egypt has made clear he doesn't want to throw over the israel/egypt peace agreement. how far can he go in supporting hamas without getting rid of that agreement or undermining it in a fundamental way? i expect him to go quite far. >> do you think the election affected the timing of this. did hamas step up its attacks to test the obama administration? did netanyahu act waiting for romney to be elected and not seeing that. >> it's hard to know. i...
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egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a sunday night showing of the "twilight" move. police say his mother called authorities, afraid that her son had bought two rifles similar to the ones use in the colorado theater shooting. police say lammers admitted to that plan. >>> more on the developing situation in the middle east. could there be a ceasefire in the works, one that would include a guarantee from i that it would l not resume assassinations of high-ranking palestinian leaders and a ceasing of rockets from gaza? earlier on msnbc, the chief spokesman for prime minister netanyahu was skeptical of a truce.
egypt's new president is promising a full investigation. the country has a history of tragic train accidents. >>> two workers disappear affidavit an explosion in an oil rig in the gulf of mexico. it happened friday about 25 miles off the louisiana coast. no oil was spilled from the well. the rig is owned by black elk energy. four other workers are in critical condition. >>> and in missouri, police say a 20-year-old man is under arrest, accused of planning a mass shooting at a...
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the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was nodding and winking at the israelis and encouraged them to go in and basically finish hamas. obviously, we have a very different egyptian government this time. israel also has the experience of having gone into gaza, knows it's easier to get into gaza than it is to get out. by the same token, there's a reality. israel is not going to accept a situation where a major part of its population has to be living in shelters. one of the reasons israel is acting right now is they're basically sending the message to hamas that if you are not going to re-establish calm, and in a way where we don't have to face the prospe
the last thing egypt needs at this point is for hamas, in a sense, to dictate egypt's future at a time when they have a collapsing economy. >> you and i have watched this before, 2008, as it ticked towards a ground invasion there in gaza from israel. what's different this time around that you see from your opinion? >> well, i think what's different is that on the one -- well, several things are different. we have a different egyptian government. under mubarak, that government was...
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>> i think from the american perspective, egypt is a necessary broker. they consider hamas a terrorist entity and so the u.s. does not directly deal with hamas. in order to be a broker between both sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yeah. you know, john mccain, we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another opinion about who he thinks should be over in the middle east talking to these people. here's john mccain. >> find someone even as high ranking frankly as former president bill clinton. to go and be the negotiator. i know he would hate me for saying that but we need a person of enormous prestige and influence to have these parties sit down together as an honest broker. >> you know, when we hear mccain say something like this saying something nice about a democrat, then, of course, he has to go and say one more thing and here's john mccain once again. >> if this god forbid conflict escalates, again, it is a sign of american weakness throughout the region. before in crises, henry kissinger was there or jim baker was there or
>> i think from the american perspective, egypt is a necessary broker. they consider hamas a terrorist entity and so the u.s. does not directly deal with hamas. in order to be a broker between both sides the u.s. necessarily needs to deal with egypt. >> yeah. you know, john mccain, we see hillary clinton there. john mccain had another opinion about who he thinks should be over in the middle east talking to these people. here's john mccain. >> find someone even as high ranking...
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to egypt unless they play a more constructive role. the last 48 hours president morsi has stepped up to the plate. but we don't know if this cease-fire will hold. megyn: it's fascinating to watch this unfold. ed henry, thanks. we have a report today on the deadly consulate attack in libya raising more serious questions about who was behind the administration's changing story and what and who was behind the murder of four americans on 9/11. the national intelligence cleave, the director of national intelligence james clapper is getting the blame from top republicans who say he made blatantly inconsistent statement to them on who changed the cia talking points on the attack. they sit was al qaeda and somebody changed that talking point. there was testimony late last week from former cia director david petraeus who we are told told the lawmakers the initial documents coming out of the cia was this ambush that killed the four americans in benghazi included the word terrorism and cited al qaeda. but someone changed the language. then we had
to egypt unless they play a more constructive role. the last 48 hours president morsi has stepped up to the plate. but we don't know if this cease-fire will hold. megyn: it's fascinating to watch this unfold. ed henry, thanks. we have a report today on the deadly consulate attack in libya raising more serious questions about who was behind the administration's changing story and what and who was behind the murder of four americans on 9/11. the national intelligence cleave, the director of...
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along egypt's border with gaza, reza sayeh. tell us more. >> reporter: we don't want to jump to conclusions. we should be very cautious. there are growing signs from where we are standing in egypt that there could a closing in on a truce or cease fire. latest sign is a statement made by egyptian president mohamed morsi, according to state tv. he said that, quote, israeli gra aggression would end on tuesday. that, of course, is today. that's consistent with similar statements we've heard from other officials late last night. we spoke with a senior egyptian official and he told us he's optimistic that in the next 24 hours there would be a cease fire. hamas officials are being even more specific. senior hamas official telling cnn that israel has agreed to the general terms but rejected the timing. hamas conditions, according to an official, are this. stop the air operation, air assaults and want the ground crossings, blockades to be opened up immediately. according to this hamas official israel is saying, okay, we'll stop the air
along egypt's border with gaza, reza sayeh. tell us more. >> reporter: we don't want to jump to conclusions. we should be very cautious. there are growing signs from where we are standing in egypt that there could a closing in on a truce or cease fire. latest sign is a statement made by egyptian president mohamed morsi, according to state tv. he said that, quote, israeli gra aggression would end on tuesday. that, of course, is today. that's consistent with similar statements we've heard...
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if you, egypt, are going to be our ally, you're going to have to protect our allies as well. that's not an entangling alliance. that's a country that stands by its agreements. don't make agreements unless we intend to keep them. and and yet we have seen this administration throw our allies under the proverbial bus. it has to stop. people have to know they can trust our word. and just like the west african who told me when i was there two years ago, you have to tell the people in washington, quit getting weaker. we have seen america get weaker. you have to tell people in washington quit letting america get weaker, then we have no chance in this life. that was echoed by other west africans. it's time to stop growing weaker. it's time to stop breaking our word to our allies. it's time to make clear to israel enemies, israel is our friend, you better back off or else you will have us to answer to. is it any surprise, more rockets are flying at israel. this administration wins four more years and the violence just gets greater against israel. israel then forced to defend itself wh
if you, egypt, are going to be our ally, you're going to have to protect our allies as well. that's not an entangling alliance. that's a country that stands by its agreements. don't make agreements unless we intend to keep them. and and yet we have seen this administration throw our allies under the proverbial bus. it has to stop. people have to know they can trust our word. and just like the west african who told me when i was there two years ago, you have to tell the people in washington,...
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egypt has been mediating cease-fire talks between hamas and israel. israeli negotiators have set a condition that hamas stop firing rockets in the long term. hamas representatives want israel to end its economic blockade of gaza. the u.n. security council has still not agreed on a statement proposed by the arab league calling on both sides for an immediate cease-fire. u.s. ambassador susan rice spoke after a closed-door meeting, saying the security council must not do anything that could undermine egypt's mediation efforts. russian ambassador vitaly churkin offered a veiled criticism of the united states. >> some members -- one member of the security council, i'm sure you can guess which, indicated sort of quite transparently that they will not be prepared to go along with any reaction of the security council. >> u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon spoke after meeting in cairo with his counterpart on the arab league, nabil al arabi. >> my message is clear -- both sides must halt firing immediately. further escalating the situation will put the entire r
egypt has been mediating cease-fire talks between hamas and israel. israeli negotiators have set a condition that hamas stop firing rockets in the long term. hamas representatives want israel to end its economic blockade of gaza. the u.n. security council has still not agreed on a statement proposed by the arab league calling on both sides for an immediate cease-fire. u.s. ambassador susan rice spoke after a closed-door meeting, saying the security council must not do anything that could...
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egypt free trade agreement given all the uncertainty in egypt with in the foreseeable future. but if it is serious, egypt can read many of the benefits of free trade through the expansion of the system with israel. israel would do this in a heartbeat and with even lower the amount of an israeli continent to be required as part of the deal. but that would require the islamist president of egypt to recognize the benefits of broadened relationship and to in fact utter the word publicly israel, something which he hasn't yet done in his official capacity. a third initiative, repairing turkish israel ties. it's overdue, it's in our interests and in the interest of both of these countries i know mr. president you try once to do this and we did not succeed the the times have changed. syria has happened, it's weaker today than before and should he get reelected he will be after his election than he was after the last time we tried to do this after the politics is clarified it's time to try this again. one last set of items were the game changers what are the unknowns as dennis referred
egypt free trade agreement given all the uncertainty in egypt with in the foreseeable future. but if it is serious, egypt can read many of the benefits of free trade through the expansion of the system with israel. israel would do this in a heartbeat and with even lower the amount of an israeli continent to be required as part of the deal. but that would require the islamist president of egypt to recognize the benefits of broadened relationship and to in fact utter the word publicly israel,...
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as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak, very much aligned with u.s. and israeli interests. he was willing to turn a blind eye to israeli aggressions as they described it in gaza so long as he could secure the support of the u.s. and israel. you is a very different dynamic now and why this is also a very big test to egypt, to its credit, america is allowing egypt to immediate this and so far, egyptian officials say they are not [ inaudible ] a peace treaty with israel. president morsi says he's committed to the international obligations but he's also using his leverage to perhaps rein in hamas. it's not necessarily
as you mentioned the mussst muslim brother hood is the dominant force in egypt. they will not sit idly by and watch not only the political leaders of hamas and others but they've made clear time and time again they will not watch palestinian people. understand in the context of the broader arab world the israeli palestini palestinian conflict cuts deep. you had the same publicly sentiment on the street but you had pro-western arab dictators in power so, for example, in egypt you had mubarak,...
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can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters. israeli police confirm that an explosive device detonated but say it was not a suicide attack. the white house is calling the attack against israeli civilians outrage o outrageous. the united kingdom is condemning the, quote, shocking violence. the eight-day conflict between israel and hamas has claimed the lives of more than 130 palestinians and five israelis. despite hopes of a ceasefire, tuesday ended as the conflict's deadliest day. secretary clinton who rushed to the region to try to prevent an escalation of the conflict is in cairo to meet with egy
can egypt help bring an end to the fighting? and back at home, all eyes on the white house for a thanksgiving tradition. the presidential turkey pardon. get ready to gobble up the history of this bird watch. good morning from washington. it's wednesday, november 21st, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert filling in for the great chuck todd. a commuter bus exploded in central tel aviv injuring at least 19 people steps away from the national defense he headquarters....
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she came across this egypt influenced network. if you google it, it is this blob of blue, red, purple circles. to the blue are people tweeted in english. the right people in arabic. the purple in both languages. having become one of the state department's more added twitterers. i had a fair number of followers. if you look at the map, i was off on the fringe. i was on the map but not in the middle of the conversation. that is the challenge. the technology does provide the opportunity to get in the middle of a conversation. they purposefully go en insert themselves into chat rooms to generate a debate and to try to change hearts and minds. there is an opportunity here. inside the state department there is as great ambivalence about the technology. there is this tension of message and time. i think their shores in what he should have done. was his message perfect? not necessarily. it was on ultimately embraced by the state department. he had the disadvantage of trying to do the right thing. that is the great dilemma. you do have a r
she came across this egypt influenced network. if you google it, it is this blob of blue, red, purple circles. to the blue are people tweeted in english. the right people in arabic. the purple in both languages. having become one of the state department's more added twitterers. i had a fair number of followers. if you look at the map, i was off on the fringe. i was on the map but not in the middle of the conversation. that is the challenge. the technology does provide the opportunity to get in...
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egypt within recent days aligning itself with palestinians, but still leading the push to try to end the fighting. reports say an israeli envoy is in cairo for talks to arrange for a truce, but for now, a break through looks distant. the sound now of what is coming. >> people running for their lives, looking for cover. as gaza militants launch dozens of rockets targeting israel's heartland. and just a flavor now of what's been happening night and day, three rockets aimed at tel aviv, the commercial capital of the jewish state. this was not that long ago, coming to the rescue, israel's iron dome missile defense system shooting down both those rockets before they could hit anything. israel also keeping up the pressure, pounding militant targets in gaza. these pictures show a building used by hamas and the sites of a war plane and being wiped out completely by a direct hit. meanwhile, president obama doing some kind of a balancing act now, warning israel about the dangers of expanding its air assault into a ground war, while also defending israel's right to defend itself. his comments d
egypt within recent days aligning itself with palestinians, but still leading the push to try to end the fighting. reports say an israeli envoy is in cairo for talks to arrange for a truce, but for now, a break through looks distant. the sound now of what is coming. >> people running for their lives, looking for cover. as gaza militants launch dozens of rockets targeting israel's heartland. and just a flavor now of what's been happening night and day, three rockets aimed at tel aviv, the...
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. >> egypt has a lot of natural gas. that is really a attracting some investors to the country including this german engineering firm that runs several chemical factories in egypt. bmw also runs a production facility just outside of cairo. overall, german industries have been relatively modest that just 470 million euro per year. countries like china and turkey have a much stronger presence. >> the size of the german economy and the importance of the egyptian markets and tail that we have to work harder to increase the amount. 600 is important, but we would like to see more german investment in supporting egypt's, invest in supporting democracy. >> political events have been featured at the root conference, not only the arabs bring an opportunity in the region but also the current escalation of the israeli-palestinian conflict. it could complicate german- egyptian cooperation. what's the question as to what extent germany and the european union cannot, or want, to get involved in this conflict. it's interesting and the a
. >> egypt has a lot of natural gas. that is really a attracting some investors to the country including this german engineering firm that runs several chemical factories in egypt. bmw also runs a production facility just outside of cairo. overall, german industries have been relatively modest that just 470 million euro per year. countries like china and turkey have a much stronger presence. >> the size of the german economy and the importance of the egyptian markets and tail that...
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and then, she will then go to egypt and talk with egypt's president mohamed mursi and egypt is taking the lead in this negotiation with hamas. so u.s. believes that egypt is playing a very concrete and positive role, and so it looks like all sides are prepared to give some more time for diplomacy to be worked out. >> christiane, what's your sense of the american role in this decision to halt the ground invasion? obviously, like you said, it would have been very unseemly had it been done while hillary clinton was on the ground there. but is she going because there has been progress? or is she going because she needs to break some sort of stalema stalemate? >> well, probably to lend support, and to, you know, put the u.s. point of view, and to, as they say, look face-to-face at the counterparts and be there in the room with them. this is a very critical time. everybody in this region knows it. of course, everybody in the u.s. knows, too, that the last thing you want is to see a massive escalation of a war in this region that could have the potential negative fallout of spreading in one
and then, she will then go to egypt and talk with egypt's president mohamed mursi and egypt is taking the lead in this negotiation with hamas. so u.s. believes that egypt is playing a very concrete and positive role, and so it looks like all sides are prepared to give some more time for diplomacy to be worked out. >> christiane, what's your sense of the american role in this decision to halt the ground invasion? obviously, like you said, it would have been very unseemly had it been done...
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we give a ton of money to egypt. before i let you go, steve, how much of a leverage is that in these discussions that hillary clinton will have with mohammed morsi, and he really needs to show his colors in terms of where he stands in all this to enjoy the continued support ever the united states. >> i think that's right. we ought to use that as leverage. there is a reason that we do it. you've seen over the past year, the changing dynamics there, you've seen an unwillingness or hesitation on the part of the united states to use that leverage. i would say now is the time to make sure, to make clear that we expect egypt to continue its role, its historical role as a good-faith negotiator and not to sort of throw in with its muslim brotherhood allies in hamas but instead try to play the role of a serious diplomat and mediator. martha: big important moment to show leadership for the united states as you say, steve, and for hillary clinton as she is likely in the waning months ofr. thank you very much. bill: as you sugge
we give a ton of money to egypt. before i let you go, steve, how much of a leverage is that in these discussions that hillary clinton will have with mohammed morsi, and he really needs to show his colors in terms of where he stands in all this to enjoy the continued support ever the united states. >> i think that's right. we ought to use that as leverage. there is a reason that we do it. you've seen over the past year, the changing dynamics there, you've seen an unwillingness or...
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. >> with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> how important -- >> let's be clear -- >> always had the deal between israel and egypt in the interest of both countries and our country. can we keep that deal? there are some architecture for peace there? >> we're going to try to keep that deal absolutely, but, remember, we're complicit in part of what happened. obama when he took george michel's resignation and basically moved dennis ross out of the white house, he doesn't put a new program on the table. and when america walks away from this peace process or an effort to bring the two sides together and really lay out a plan, violence kicks up. so we have a bit of complicity and you you are seeing right now not a strategic presidency from obama but a reactive presidency and that doesn't bode well for this. >> do you agree with that? if you're not moving forward you're moving backwards on the peace process? >> i think you plod forward or stay -- i'm not sure it's unraveling. i still think the amazing thing about all
. >> with the president of egypt. >> don't you? >> absolutely. >> how important -- >> let's be clear -- >> always had the deal between israel and egypt in the interest of both countries and our country. can we keep that deal? there are some architecture for peace there? >> we're going to try to keep that deal absolutely, but, remember, we're complicit in part of what happened. obama when he took george michel's resignation and basically moved dennis...
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hopefully, we work with the egypts to broker the cease-fire. if there is a ground invasion, that will increase the violence and make it that much more difficult to get to a peaceful situation. israel has to do what it can to disop the rockets from raining down on the citizens. >> shannon: i want to turn to libya, benghazi, with the testimony from general petraeus and others, there are several g.o.p. senator who is have said that ambassador rice in the version that she gave, several days after the initial deadly attack in benghazi, they have called her unqofl qualified, untrustworthy and they would block her nomination as secretary of state. you have defended her. but i want to read something you said between the time of the attack and when she -- when she made the rounds on the sunday shows. >> right. >> shannon: in the interim day, you said this was not just a mob that got out of hand. mobs don't attack guns blazing, i think there was a growing consensus it was preplanned. if you had that estimation a couple of days before he went on the sunda
hopefully, we work with the egypts to broker the cease-fire. if there is a ground invasion, that will increase the violence and make it that much more difficult to get to a peaceful situation. israel has to do what it can to disop the rockets from raining down on the citizens. >> shannon: i want to turn to libya, benghazi, with the testimony from general petraeus and others, there are several g.o.p. senator who is have said that ambassador rice in the version that she gave, several days...
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they're in egypt right now. both sides. they're not talking to one another. they're talking about this. >> there is a reminder -- we've been several years without any meaningful mideast peace process between the israelis and the palestinians. this is is a reminder that that is a not a cost free option. drift has cost in the sense of creating heightening tensions which come to this kind of flash point every few years. >> there is an interesting policy which has been taking place over the last few years which is having an impact. the iron dome. protecting israeli citizens in these cities from being hit by the incoming rockets. it may change israel's negotiating stance and make them slower to move ground troops into gaza. >> we have to continue crippling sanctions the congress pushed and the obama administration has
they're in egypt right now. both sides. they're not talking to one another. they're talking about this. >> there is a reminder -- we've been several years without any meaningful mideast peace process between the israelis and the palestinians. this is is a reminder that that is a not a cost free option. drift has cost in the sense of creating heightening tensions which come to this kind of flash point every few years. >> there is an interesting policy which has been taking place over...
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investors have gotten quite bullish on egypt. do you think the investment thesis is fundamentally changed? >> i think it's a bit of a wake-up call to the post-revolution transition in the egypt's economy is never going to be easy. the imf deal that was announced last week, should be agreed at broad level probably by the end of this year. that really averts the immediate threat of the balance payment crisis. that was a very real significant threat up until this deal was agreed. but anyone that's expecting very rapid changes i think will be disappointed. i think egypt is moving in the right direction, but it's going to be very much a case of two steps forward and one step back. it's going to be bumpy for at least the next year or so. >> i wonder, too, charles, would egypt be one of the biggest countries in the middle east, an important previous source of stability, what the latest bout of unrest spells for the investment picture broadly speaking? >> we saw that with the israeli-gaza issues of late. really, all across the middle eas
investors have gotten quite bullish on egypt. do you think the investment thesis is fundamentally changed? >> i think it's a bit of a wake-up call to the post-revolution transition in the egypt's economy is never going to be easy. the imf deal that was announced last week, should be agreed at broad level probably by the end of this year. that really averts the immediate threat of the balance payment crisis. that was a very real significant threat up until this deal was agreed. but anyone...
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egypt is -- morsi is the lynchpen here. if there's any stabilization between israel and hamas over the next several weeks, egypt is going to have to enforce it because the hamas and the islamic jihad and others in gaza are trying to get weapons and those weapons are often supplied through egypt and morsi has got to make a decision here. is he going to be the muslim brotherhood ideology or going to be practical. if he's going to be practical he has to enforce this border. if not, dr. brzezinski, any deal they reach will be torn up within a couple weeks once the rockets start launching. >> dr. brzezinski? >> i think that's almost comical because that's really just taking one-sided issue -- >> dan, i told you that. >> stunning. >> stunning -- >> focusing -- >> hold on. that's my label. don't take my label. >> stunningly superficial. >> that's my label. >> you're comical. >> we can take our show -- >> almost comical. >> almost. >> i'm sorry. go ahead, dr. brzezinski. >> if we are expecting the egyptians to become surrogate poli
egypt is -- morsi is the lynchpen here. if there's any stabilization between israel and hamas over the next several weeks, egypt is going to have to enforce it because the hamas and the islamic jihad and others in gaza are trying to get weapons and those weapons are often supplied through egypt and morsi has got to make a decision here. is he going to be the muslim brotherhood ideology or going to be practical. if he's going to be practical he has to enforce this border. if not, dr. brzezinski,...
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egypt is playing a pivotal roll and it could give us insight as to what egypt is or is becoming. >> that's right. there is a question of trust and they do trust the new president. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. that has lead to questions of trust. and also the fact that it has appeared that egypt in the fledgling government has been helping to insight violence in the region and not actually stop it. but what is interesting, it is amazing how a billion dollars in aid -- u.s. aid can get one's attention. you can see him playing a constructive role two days after threatening them. >> egypt, watch what you do and how do you it. you are teetering with the congress with your aide being cutoff if you keep inciting violence between the israelis and the palestinians. >> and interesting because it was just two months ago where president obama basically said he is not sure egypt is now an ally. here we are two months later. the president was on the phone with president morsey three times in the last 24 hours. they are enough of an ally that the president clearly needs them and relying on e
egypt is playing a pivotal roll and it could give us insight as to what egypt is or is becoming. >> that's right. there is a question of trust and they do trust the new president. he is a member of the muslim brotherhood. that has lead to questions of trust. and also the fact that it has appeared that egypt in the fledgling government has been helping to insight violence in the region and not actually stop it. but what is interesting, it is amazing how a billion dollars in aid -- u.s. aid...
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is asking egypt to help diffuse the situation. what is america's role right now? >> the role of the united states is as it has been in the past, as the only entity capable of establishing the circumstances that could lead to negotiations and to peace. with our allies, trying to organize a united response to deal with this immediate crisis, it remains one to try to stabilize the situation to create the context in which israelis and palestinians can sit down and negotiate directly, hopefully leading to an agreement. that has proven impossible so far, but it is in the interest of both sides. >> you are one of the people who has been one of the prime movers for peace in this region. what is your gut instinct? can this ever really be achieved? >> i do not believe there is any such thing as a conflict that cannot be ended or a conflict that is inevitable to last forever. individuals and societies act at of self interest. but sides recognize -- both sides will recognize that this in their self-interest to reach an agreement. it is also in the sf-interest of countries in
is asking egypt to help diffuse the situation. what is america's role right now? >> the role of the united states is as it has been in the past, as the only entity capable of establishing the circumstances that could lead to negotiations and to peace. with our allies, trying to organize a united response to deal with this immediate crisis, it remains one to try to stabilize the situation to create the context in which israelis and palestinians can sit down and negotiate directly,...
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. >> and there is the concern of how egypt will react. what is the word there on how they are reacting? >> well, we already heard from egypt's president and the foreign minister. they have condemned the emergency meeting in the arab league to explore popular options. egypt says it will open the border with gaza to completely allow all wounded and injured and anybody else who wants to get out. we are getting initial reports that the prime minister may be leading a high delegation visit tomorrow. that would be unprecedented given the security situation here. >> a ayman, thank you so much. appreciate it. from the middle east to back home. let's take a look at what is happening this hour. the president will land in new york city within the next 30 minutes, where he will tour the damage done by superstorm sandy. he will be greeted by andrew cuomo and governor bloomberg. and there are two closed door meetings on the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. one is taking place with the house intelligence committee and the the other with
. >> and there is the concern of how egypt will react. what is the word there on how they are reacting? >> well, we already heard from egypt's president and the foreign minister. they have condemned the emergency meeting in the arab league to explore popular options. egypt says it will open the border with gaza to completely allow all wounded and injured and anybody else who wants to get out. we are getting initial reports that the prime minister may be leading a high delegation...